Contradiction

Posted on 10/25/2012 by Burrus

According to your religion what is the biggest sin, aborting an unborn child or withholding food and nourishment after it is born?

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14 Responses to Contradiction

  1. William Burrus says:
    10/31/2012 at 10:13 am

    It’s funny how Republicans say that their prime objection to abortion is the use of taxpayer money to pay for the procedure and then go about enacting laws to restrict abortion even without taxpayer dollars. They impose vaginal inspections and zoning rules that make it impossible to operate and then piously make reference to taxpayer funding. Do you think that we do not see your hypocrisy?

    • Tim J says:
      10/31/2012 at 3:51 pm

      It’s funny how democrats only care about having the right to get abortions and could careless about the child. Can you smell the hypocrisy? And where exactly is it outlawed to get an abortion? Answer, nowhere.

  2. William Burrus says:
    10/30/2012 at 9:13 am

    Tim J

    Who do you think that the food stamps are used to feed or am I mistaken that your candidate for president wants to slash the program? And as a bonus, he proposes to de fund Planned Parenthood where expectant mothers receive free prenatal care and medical services after birth. I am not aware of churches and charities providing these services.

    Lets face it. You and the other zeolots want to force women to bear children against their will but once born you do not want taxpayer dollars to suppoprt them. You instead point to churches and charities for after birth care but government restriction it before birth. That is a contradiction because it is the same life, pre and post. I suggest that it is not about the life of the child at all. You really do not care. It is all about controlling the woman.

    • TimJ says:
      10/30/2012 at 10:24 pm

      It just amazes me how we as a country and people survived the pre 1960′s welfare state. So I am a zealot, so soon into the discussion. Women are free to choose as they like, those opposed to abortion do not want taxpayer money paying for it. Most elected GOPers advocate letting states decide whether or not abortion should be legalized. I believe a women can go get abortion on demand anytime and any place they like. I believe a women can go and purchase contraception aids anytime and any place they like. Planned parenthood has one main purpose/directive, provide abortion on demand, not medical services as you state Sir. Other than providing information, they do not provide medical services, please educate yourself in their role, and while you do that research where the majority of their clinics are located. The GOP merely advocates defunding this service, if they want to exist let them raise their money from the left wingers who promote them. Sir, there are other avenues women take who are against abortion, have their child, but can’t care for him/her. Mainly adoption is the route these mothers take. Please, I’m sorry for thinking every life is a gift, but if that is wrong than we zealots will deal with that. Yes pre 1960′s Johnson welfare state, we Americans survived the big government nanny state just fine. Churches, charities, and communities can do a better job than government caring for those truly in need.

  3. Tim J says:
    10/29/2012 at 11:05 pm

    Wow, prolife equals govt support, that’s a new argument. Please help me, where is it being promoted to withhold food from a child? You Sir are so far gone I will not even try to educate you, it wouldn’t help you.

  4. William Burrus says:
    10/27/2012 at 5:22 pm

    Jess

    It’s ok if you cannot answer the question about life. In your world the unborn is life that must receive government support, but after birth “life” is the responsibility of others because government has other priorities. It is convenient that you can separate the unborn from the born because it would be inconsistent. With my limited understanding of the language, the word life is not separated into catagories pre and post and to be consistent government control and responsibility would extend until the ‘life form’ can and should provide for itself.

  5. William Burrus says:
    10/26/2012 at 3:18 pm

    Jess

    Now I understand. The government should control the birth of human life, but has no responsibility for life after conception. If society (government) has no responsibility after birth, leaving it to orphanages, churches and charities how does government demand birth? It is obvious that you worship a strange God that loses interest after birth.

    • Jess says:
      10/27/2012 at 12:46 pm

      Wow, you keep adding to your question. Again, I answered my feelings on the original question and am not going to engage in a war of semantics with you so let me leave you with these last thoughts.

      The government’s role should be to protect human life, not control it. According to the Bible, My God says that murder is a sin. Also, I don’t equate society as “government” (again, that is another discussion). It is a horrible sin that some in “society” recklessly and irresponsibly bring children into this world. It is a greater sin to kill these unwanted children. Thankfully, there are many in our society who help to care and provide for these children (churches, charity, family, friends, volunteers, etc). I, myself, give till it hurts. I think you would be hard pressed to find examples of children in this country whom are denied nourishment. If so, please share. I would like to help!

      In closing, thank you for your past and continued service to the APWU membership. You are greatly appreciated.

    • Tim2 says:
      11/01/2012 at 11:51 pm

      Society, government, churches, orphanages, and charities do not have the responsibility to provide abortions and/or care for unwanted children. The responsibility rests with the parents, pre and post the life giving process. All of the above listed organizations pick up the pieces when the parents neglect their responsibility. And I do thank God for their charitable actions.

  6. William Burrus says:
    10/26/2012 at 3:07 pm

    Republican Union member

    You are welcome to engage in meaningful dialogue but this is not a forum for nonsense.

    • Republican Union Member says:
      10/26/2012 at 8:19 pm

      I dont see Abortion of nonsense (You may)

      I agreeded that the Govt should feed hungary children as long as their parent isnt wasting tax dollars on other stuff

      I also said we shouldnt be giving food/money away to other nations when we have kids hungry here

  7. William Burrus says:
    10/26/2012 at 9:16 am

    Jess

    You avoid the question. With the focus of the political campaign on government food stamps and American taxpayers providing food for needy children you cannot get away with talking about churches and charities. If the government denies food to children is it a sin?

    • Jess says:
      10/26/2012 at 12:35 pm

      I’m not trying to get away with anything Mr. Burrus. I answered your original question. Now that you have conveniently changed it, please allow me to answer the new question. No, it is not a sin. People will give to their brothers and sisters because of their religious beliefs. Being forced by government to give to your brothers and sisters is not the role of government and has nothing to do with “sin.” That’s a whole other discussion.

  8. Jess says:
    10/25/2012 at 11:43 pm

    In many cases, prenatal testing has produced a deadly reality for unborn babies considered less than acceptable, convenient, or even the new buz word “optimal,” by their parents. Sex-selection abortions are legal in the wide-open “right” to abortion declared by the court. Prenatal testing of other characteristics means that parents can now abort a baby that does not meet their specifications and try again. This has to stop.
    As for those who are just plain irresponsible: Abortion is not “birth control!” Abortion is murder. Education and personal responsibility are key.
    No one starves in this country. NO ONE. Your newborn can and will be fed. I don’t know of one church that would refuse nourshment to a newborn, as well as postnatal counsel to those who have made irresponsible and poor lifetsyle choices.
    Yes, abortion is murder, and murder is the greatest sin of all.

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